You could get away with something like 30mmx50mm batten (nice and cheap) and 40mm screws. To stop there being a step, you have to remove it and replace with ply, as stated above. I would avoid using sheet material for flooring as it would be even worse than T&G chipboard for gaining access. It occurred to me I haven't yet purchased any screws and was thinking of getting the Screw-Tite 2 PZ Double Self-Countersunk Screws 3. Screw down as you suggested, and as Sinewave has mentioned. New Milwaukee Hand Tools. note where all pipes and cables are and fit new flooring with. Set the blade depth to just less than the thickness of the board and slice down the flooring above two adjacent joists just to the inside of the nail line. Our P2 is available in standard. Cutting Width (Kerf): Medium Cut. c, Nov 10, 2005. If you don't want to use good olde fashioned t&g flooring planks, then use 22mm subflooring t&g chipboard, but then your joists must be at 400mm centres minimum. DIYDave. (1) Online Only. There is 1 row of strutting at the center of the span. I've blinded my slab level with sharp sand, so. The choice is up to you wether you fix 100mm or 300mm but i know which id do. S000157. P5 is a flooring-grade chipboard appropriate for load-bearing uses with fluctuating moisture because of extreme humidity. Wickes Chipboard Loft Panels - 320 x 1220mm - Pack of 3 added to "My Project List". 100mm x 2400mm x 1200mm Recticel Eurothane GP Insulation Board. Inc. 99 inc. 5x20 screws every 150mm in each direction. I would like to fit my new showertray directly onto 6mm Backerboard that is sitting on 22mm t&g chipboard, i'm not sure how i would plumb in the waste for the shower, at what point do i do this? When the showertray is fitted there will be no access under the flooring so im not sure how this will work, can anyone help? 5. View as Grid List. 9m ect. Days 2 0 Hours 3 1 Minutes 4 5 Seconds Home < [. I'm fitting the tray at floor level with the waste going under the boards. £13. Egger D4 Chipboard Flooring Adhesive 1kg. 6m at 600mm centres using 22mm chipboard as flooring. Ordinary wood glue will be adequate if you have to glue the joints (if anything else is. All that squaeky chipboard nonsense is the boards rubbing up and down nails. 82 per sheet (Inc. There is a 30% restocking charge on returns. Once the glue is dried just drop the small piece back in and fix with four screws. I have looked through the forum and some people recommend 2. Location: Near Holsworthy in Cornwall. 5 x 25mm or possibly the 4 x 25mm from Screwfix. However i do not accept any. The sheets use high-density particleboard and are suitable for both domestic and commercial flooring. Click & Collect. Inc. . The blade (24 teeth) is quite burnt, and the saw kept stalling. Tongue and groove so all locks together (glue joints also) and lay as a floating floor. Paslode Nails are classified according to Eurocode 5 Service Class 1, 2 and 3 providing a suitable nail for every application. . rogerk101, Jan 25, 2023. Features and benefits. I think my 2 current options are: a) Paint the chipboard with black bitumen paint (blackjack) so it doesn't absorb any moisture from the mortar mix (absorbing water could mean the mortar sets weaker / cause chipboard to swell) and then press on with putting down the tray Plane down the tongues by about half and remove the sharp corners and then on the two removable boards, plane a small chamfer on the underside corner of the tongue side. The spec of chipboard floors is normally poor for tiling on, there is normally movement. Jord86 Screwfix Select. VAT. £41. 5 times thickness of sub floor i. The stud wall that separates these two rooms was created before the floating floor was installed so is sitting on the concrete garage base (on top of the dpm). If possible, use 22mm thick boards over 18mm thick, but. The tongue and groove creates an interlocking joint that is strong and stable. your access problem should be dealt with by using "routabout"= jig for. 7 (46) £2699. 9 Items . £ 17. Shop our range of Particle Board Flooring at warehouse prices from quality brands. com. Loft legs, if installed well so they can't move, might just take a persons weight but its stretching it. Screwfix Community Forum. Yup so the plan is: Existing garage is concrete which is a 75mm lower than the current house level. For flooring, we stock both 22mm and 18mm chipboard, offering moisture resistance and protection from the elements. Get great value and great versatility with our range of chipboard and oriented strand board (OSB). 2mm x 55mm 200 Pack at Screwfix. Wickes Chipboard Loft Panels - 320 x 1220mm - Pack of 3. Use Kronofloor P5 18mm for domestic floating floors and Kronofloor P5 22mm for non-domestic floating floors or for floors requiring restricted deflection. I sheeted over the 22mm chipboard with 12mm chipboard to create a better subfloor. Just use a circular saw, set the depth to 20mm and cut a small section out between the joists. Virtual Voodoo New Member. I've used it today to cut a section out of my 22mm chipboard flooring and it really struggled. £28. Chipboard has no real strength going sideways, so the boards will pull away from any fixings within about 10mm of an edge with relative ease. Stripped out old kitchen and lamintate floor to reveal several cracks - rubbish slab really. Flooring Chipboard. Caber TG4 P5 V313 2400mm x 600mm x 22mm Chipboard Flooring Sign in or Select a branch to see available stock and prices. 50mm x 2400mm x 1200mm Recticel Eurothane GP Insulation Board. Hello guys. Will be using Stixall. A: Plywood is often a more suitable material for a subfloor compared to chipboard. Charlie Far!ey New Member. Delivery information. Working length of 4m. Use Kronofloor P5 18mm for domestic applications with a maximum joist/batten spacing up to 450mm centres or. 6/5. rogerk101 Screwfix Select. Mikey s, Jul 18, 2021. Also do you fit a loose tonge. Richard_ Screwfix Select OSB is structurally stronger than chipboard, but there is a reason that chipboard is designed and used for flooring. I will laying a heavy duty grade lino down on top of the chipboard subfloor. From trade packs for commercial tradespeople to individual packs for domestic use, there's something for every job. What happens is that joiners push the screws too deep into the joist and leave the screw embedded in the softer core of the chipboard. Suitable for Soft to Medium Density Tiles. . Structaflor R-flor is particleboard flooring that has been laminated with a metallized foil layer on the underside of the board, in order to: • Increase total R-Value of flooring system •. 79 Inc Vat. I've got a floor to redo that's on 18mm chipboard at the minute, I'm thinking of changing to 22mm but I've been looking around. 92. jimwillsher Member. So your choice is £7 for a reasonable hand saw or about £75 for a powered version and accesories. All the joints should be glued; glue on the joists is not always done but I usually run some PVA along them (same glue as the joints). Single Bottle. VAT. The drop into the garage is approx 75mm which slopes another 75mm to the up and over door. The P5 Tongue and Groove Chipboard Flooring is a durable, high-density moisture-resistant P5 grade chipboard flooring with tongue and groove design for easy installation. Latest Offers At Screwfix. Whatever you do, mark where pipes run and if there are cables through notches - always. Thread by: Daz1009. Chipboard flooring is available in 18mm and 22mm thicknesses, and the tongue & groove sheets are 2400m x 600mm (approx. 8 or no. Most merchants will only sell this stuff in bulk which is no good for me. Why not use the traditional solution - floorboards. then cut strips off the T/G P5 22mm @ 45deg, glued/clamped/screwed into place. P5 moisture resistant T&G chipboard sheeting would be the usual choice for flooring, available in 18 and 22mm thicknesses. #2. All our standard chipboard is from well-managed forests. as a rule i never tile on chipboard. This is a job for a circular saw. PLEASE CALL 0161 425 3030 for a Quote. Worx 710 compact circular saw. £299. As long as the flooring is supported and level it should be fine. 18mm chipboard floor 22mm laminate and underlay 100mm 6x2 joists (25mm of underside ceiling) 75mm off the ridge for collar ties / downlights New head height = 2110 (6ft 11) In regards to rafters my friend who works for LABC sent me this;Egger D4 Chipboard Flooring Adhesive 1kg. I recently used 12mm backer for a floor - joists were are less than 300mm centres (nearer 250) and in between was the solid insulation for wet-underfloor heating so well supported. Andrew Morris Member. The floor level would ideally come up a bit too. 50mm screws will screw the 22mm chipboard nicely into the 40mm battens. . If the joist spacing is 600mm then use 22mm chipboard. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Tilers' Talk > Hardiebacker and Ply. Out of stock for delivery. question is, is it still ok to have a floating sub floor either a solid oak floor or kardean? CGN Screwfix Select. on new buid when we lay a 22mm boards its standard to glue the joints and glue the joists that they are layed upon. Floor-Tite PZ Double-Countersunk Thread-Cutting Floorboard Screws 4. Show prices excluding VAT INC VAT EX VAT. No brainer. OSB. chipboard floor. Unfortunately chipboard is a very poor flooring media , but its. 99 Inc Vat. Features. The finished floor will be laminate, presumably on 22mm chipboard on battens. 5 or 3 times the thickness of the chipboard for length. 95 for 10 depending on floor thickness & VAT & of course the router to fit it & the price is out of all proportion to the job needed. Cut from upper side of board. No time to rip out and replace slab -. 5m wide x 6m long. Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by RK Joiner, May 12, 2008. See full list on diyfixit. Supplied in a handy tub. . 4. john i did something like this the other week. VAT. Higher densities than the usual mdf may be available by other names for other uses. 99 Inc Vat. 2. Returns Policy. saturday most shut at around 12. 0 X 60mm screws but have just discovered a Spax floorboard screw. 22mm chipboard, + insulation. Upstairs flooring in house built in 2005 is noisy and creaky to the extent that it’s hard to ignore. squeaks. Making jobs easier, reducing critical time on home improvements or housing developments. Glue and screw some 2x1 or 3x1 on the underside of the remaining floor, screw from above and below if possible. Order Spax TX Countersunk Self-Drilling Flooring Screw 4. It's called karma. com. £18. as mentioned above ,must be caberdeck which has a plastic sheet stuck to it with taped joints or weyrock which has a grey rubber coating and is glued with. ME69 Member. Moisture resistant. NEW. woodbutcherbower, Sep 7, 2021 #5. Click & Collect. Rip up the chipboard and then get some Hardie Floor - 18 or 22mm and relay it. Inc. VAT) Quick view. Click & Collect. 05. VAT. I watched a video on the caberfix glue on caberfix flooring and it looked exactly the same as my flooring I. Deep, Sharp, Single Thread for Cutting Cleanly through Wood. traditionally you would only use white glue for gluing these boards togehter,grip fill is too thick and silicone is definately not suitable!gun nailing is ideal as well as the nails are ribbed and will not allow movement. Mould-Resistant. 00. 10 screws, but Screwfix only seem to supply up to no. 6 1. In the unlikely event that you should need them, our Customer Service Team is available from Monday to Friday 8am to 6pm, 9am - 3pm on Saturday, and 8am - 1pm on Bank Holidays. Manufactured to EN 312, EGGER Protect is made from EGGER P5 flooring grade chipboard. DannyDoLittle, May 15, 2020. This means when load is applied to the floor it moves and. Screwfix Community Forum. She has 2 machines which weigh 78kg each. . Browse from our wide range of sheet materials ideal for interior or exterior projects. What are your thoughts regarding screws for 22mm P6 chipboard flooring. I. It’s 22mm P5 chipboard over 100mm PIR. rogerk101, Feb 20, 2020. masterdiy, Dec 21, 2018 #6. The previous ones, were to go on a T&G floor, but there was plenty of cupping and unevenness so I planed down the high spots and then screwed, I believe, 4mm ply using 3. stevie. VAT. Just avoid the pipes! What floor is going over it? Carpet best for sound. The floor has dropped under the stud wall by about 6mm (in the middle of the. I am looking to meet the new extension floor and existing floors by laying 22mm T&G chipboard onto the concrete. conjunction with fitting EGGER Flooring grade chipboard (see Fitting Notes on page 3 ). co. Joists are at 600mm, T&G chipboard 22mm @ 600mmX3000mm. The combined floor thickness will be 31mm, so don't want to risk 30mm as these may push through the chipboard. Screwfix Community Forum. Converting my garage and need the new floor in the garage to match inside the house. Home Forums > Screwfix. How much height have you got to play with from concrete floor, to finished height of floor. Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by Dawsy, Nov 18, 2017. #10. mack4165 New Member. 04kg: Product width: 600mm: Standard: EN 13986:2004: Timber type: Softwood: Timber grade: Std grade: Texture:. £15. The previous kitchen area of the existing house was located in an area with a concrete floor, shared with the hallway to rear door. Its not a massive space so cost isnt really an issue. Buy Wood, Chipboard & Plywood Cutting & Blades at Screwfix. It has a hardwearing, anti-slip surface (tested in accordance with BS 7976-2) on the top and underside of the board, which helps to prevent moisture penetration. I have just had a ground floor extension on my house completed and the builder installed a timber suspended floor. Hi,. I'm getting ex25x150 redwood softwood floorboards T+G and meters of joists to reinforce the perimeter of the rooms. but if you do use circular saw one tip is to screw a straight edge piece of timber lathe to the chipboard floor at an exact. Here is the kit I use:Bosch Professional Combi Drill and Impact Driver with Two 18V 4. Screwfix customers rate this product 4. When laying 22mm chipboard flooring is it best to nail using pasload 350 or use collated screw gun and what size of fixings also is wood glue required. £55. Cut along the nail line with a circular saw set at the same depth as the chipfloor. Including brands like CaberBoard and SterlingZero OSB in a range of sizes and thicknesses, our chipboard & OSB is suitable for applications such as floors. My first floor is 22mm water resistant T&G chipboard which is glued and nailed with 50mm ring shank nails at 100mm spacing into the metal web joists. Add to this the cost of the plastic insert rings at between £25 & £29. Screw and glue the floor down and it wont squeak at all. nyck New Member. The floor does not reach the door because of the cavity. electric cables ,water pipes etc are never far away. Administrator Trade Member Author Offline Ask The Trades Posts: 8812 Total Thanks: 108 For This Post: 0. Kronofloor Selection. Use plywood and I would use a minimum of 28mm, this of course depends on what typr of flooring you intend to use (wood, click, laminate or tile). @oopart28- I took on a similar project with my downstairs bathroom. Overview. If you are using sheet flooring the space screws at 4 to 6 inch spacing into every joist. Order online for delivery or Click & Collect at your nearest Bunnings. 48-Tooth TCT Blade Included. Mr. I would replace the old floor boards with 22mm tongue and groove water resistant chipboard which is specifically designed for the job. For chipboard flooring. com. 012mm/m/deg C, so I expect chipboard is in a similar range, and hence chipboard. (And also its slightly lower level than the door) My thoughts are to lay 22mm chipboard flooring panels over the dining room floor and screw them into the existing floorboards. £15. The blade (24 teeth) is quite burnt, and the saw kept stalling. Bi-metal holesaws will wear out -. I've never considered tiling directly onto chipboard flooring as an option although I have seen many floors like this that haven't failed. On top of this, but not directly on a joist is built a stud wall going in the same direction as the joists. Chipboard flooring panel with an attached acoustic layer on the underside to reduce both impact and airborne transmitted sounds. Kingscurate, Weetabix and. 27 inc VAT Each. Moisture resistant. Two rooms will be knocked together as part of the extension work. Thread by: Durk, Jul 15, 2021, 6 replies, in forum: Builders' Talk. Flooring Chipboard. It is easily slotted together using tongue and groove joints (t&g). I'd have thought that 22mm moisture-resistant chipboard would be both the easiest to fit and the most suitable. Thanks, they say 18mm for 400mm centres and 20mm for 600. . If the client is going to have a tiled floor then I would go with the screeded option or at the very least replace the chipboard with T&G 22mm. i tend to stick with caberfix as it’s so strong and good quality ,which compensates for the fact that all chipboard flooring is crap. You could batten it and perhaps put 20mm celotex between that and 22mm chipboard, but will be a bit of a tedious job levelling the battens. There are two ways of doing this. Moisture resistant. Jord86 Screwfix Select. Inc. #5. Then the underlay and the vinyl tiles. Dawsy New Member. Flooring layers from the bottom floor boards to the gyproc (plastic sheet and top boards removed. i have been looking on an old thread to do with tiling and a lot of the answers mentioned to use aquapanel on the floor,as i said in yesterdays post,i have 22mm moisture proof t&g chipboard in one bathroom and the others have got floorboards. 9506134213275. Dealing with any deteriorated joists is obviously the best plan before fixing the new boarding, but as long as you apply glue to the joist tops and carefully glue all the tongue and groove joints on the chipboard, screwing down every 600mm will result in a squeak free and solid floor. As for fixing boards down it's the same again. Request a sample. Suitable for glued or nailed wood flooring. the chipboard’s nice and flat, apart from one slight (maybe 3mm) dip along part of one of the joins between t&g panels. I've had a new extension added to my kitchen and had the existing outside wall removed. The stud wall that separates these two rooms was created before the floating floor was installed so is sitting on the concrete garage base (on top of the dpm). You’ll find chipboard flooring available in 18mm or 22mm thickness. Benefit from our bulk delivery service to have large, heavy. This screw has a thread then neck then thread; anyone ever used them? Are they any good? Any other thoughts on screws for 22mm P6 chipboard flooring. com. The tongue and groove design. 1. Customer Reviews. i. Andrew Morris likes this. handyman. The thread of a chipboard screw is self-tapping - the screws are fully threaded up to and including 75mm in length, and anything longer is partially threaded with 70mm of thread. i dont like it, it warps when wet, adhesive doesent adhere properly and its basically ****. the less cutting the better. The question is what to do about insulating the ground. 22mm Egger P5 tongue and groove chipboard is a moisture-resistant structural grade flooring board. 09 for 18mm chipboard, and £981. They also help tighten gaps as these help the floorboards tighten. Caberfloor P5 Moisture Resistant Chipboard Flooring FSC TG4 2400 x 600 x 22mm. Use 22mm thickness floorboards, not 18mm, oversized spacing won't matter then provided its storage purposes. For FlexiPex 12mm pipe at 150mm centres. Chipboard floors have never thrown me - out with circular, or the good old floor board saw! I have also done the RR trick - one screw back in through the pilot drills hole. Showing 24 of 313 products. Buy Flooring Screws at Screwfix. £12. The chipboard sheets will be installed with the shortest side (width) centred on top of a joist. View product details. Tags:. High-quality moisture resistant flooring with a P5 grading; Tongue and groove design for quick and easy installation and added strength; 22mm. 2m sheets, they were bouncy, creaking and had big gaps but the joists were fine. CHIPBOARD TG4 FLOORING P5 2400 x 600 x 22mm . They are rated C24. Add for Delivery. It will make the shower tray sit lower than the other options for a better overall finish. tounge and grove chip board used in conservatory. Enquire about this product. Jablite comes in different thicknesses and chipboard in 18 or 22mm so you should be able to get the required lift. Click + Collect available. Mr. I used 22mm green T&G chipboard, glued on the tongue and in the groove and glued the joists using D4 glue, I used spax chipboard screws, and it is as solid as anything. It can equally be used internally, and is suitable for painting. MrsB said: ↑. Floor-Tite PZ Double-Countersunk Thread-Cutting Floorboard Screws 4. Chip board is a very poor sub floor material only used for cost purposes, plywood is superior in every engineering metric. CHI02. Loft boards. Use a straight edge and pencil to mark the cut line. all joints glued. Use no8 screws at least. You mentioned timber flooring,not chipboard hence my post about inferior chipboard. I tiled the top of my 22mm T&G chipboard, and the whole thing turned out really well. I am trying to find all the layers above the concrete floor. For chipboard flooring. DPM + 40mm PIR insulation and battens + 22mm water resistant T&G chipboard flooring + tiles or whatever you fancy for finished floor. 82 per m 2. * For HM (high-density) type, medium boards and all boards to be. Optimised Thread to Reduce Torque & Prevent Jacking of Timber. Use a hand saw to cut along the outer edge of this line. Glue the tongue and grooves too. mdf is not designed to support loads and if you were to use standard mdf if you had any kind of leak or spill it would puff up. Log in or Sign up. FlyByNight Screwfix Select. Pvc Fitter, Jun 2, 2009. Can Be Used On Damp Surfaces. 22mm P5 Moisture Resistant Chipboard Flooring T&G 2400mm x 600mm (8' x 2') URN: 4005002. Buy Sheet wood at B&Q - Open 7 days a week. High-quality moisture resistant flooring with a P5 grading; Tongue and groove design for quick and easy installation and added strength; 22mm thick boards for use with joists spaced up to 600mm apart; This chipboard is manufactured from recycled wood so reducing the need for landfill disposal Bob Rathbone Screwfix Select I try to avoid unsupported edges, even with T&G, yes I know that the edges that cross the joists are unsupported, but only in the same way as floor boards. Have installed a concrete beam and block floor in my new extension and have grouted it to seal etc. 2m chipboard sheets with no T&G before and the difference is unbelievable. 60; so £12 for the 18mm seems a bit on the expensive side. I've just checked Celotex website. Use 400mm spacing between battens and get them all as level as possible in both directions. The plan is, take up the old chip, insulate between the joists with celotex or. I have traditional timber floorboards. Chipboard Tongue & groove Floorboard (L)2. 4m (W)600mm (T)22mm. this stops squeek noise and promotes a more solid job. 25mm seems safe. Someone suggested a T&G glued ply floating floor over Kingspan/Cellotex insulation. 30 minute fire resistance was confirmed for both of EGGER’s fitting methods. 03-0. hi mack got 22mm chipboard flooring down just now what nail size do u recomend mack4165, Mar 23, 2009These Screwfix Deals have now finished but if you want to see our other great deals,see our current offers below. On top of this, but not directly on a joist is built a stud wall going in the same direction as the joists. 8. The previous kitchen area of the existing house was located in an area with a concrete floor, shared with the hallway to rear door. Lead Time: 2-3 days. EGGER Protect’s P5 core is the first structural chipboard product in the market to be tested for fire resistance to BS EN 1365-2:2014 when incorporated into a floor construction. Then scree and glue the T&G chipboard flooring into the battens. KIAB, Oct 4, 2019 #14. Flange Head with Reinforced Neck. December 2016. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Builders' Talk >. I therefore (half serious half joking) suggest you put in slightly above average at 18 screws per board. The flooring is 22mm chipboard. Find your nearest Screwfix store and up to date opening times. £25.